NOLK - Who dies?, It's the Night of Long Knives in the Teragen Options

[Wanderer]

OK, now I see where you're coming from. SinEater's plan is black letter cannon. While some STs might call the ABA cannon others would call it fan work and want to house rule what the 2nd gen is like.

Agreed, if we take the ABA as cannon then Sin Eater is in for a serious surprise if/when she tries this. (On the other hand if she really is the Colony then maybe not.)

Well, I'm definitely adamant on deeming BW, FP, ABA, and NF canon which trumps the actual feasibility of S-E's plan for various reasons. Those books cover areas of the setting and rulesystem that the death of the line left woefully uncovered, their quality is very high and at the very least of the same level with published material, they integrate very well with the published rulesystem and setting.

Moreover, and even more importantly, the Teragen book gives us S-E's plan, but there is no indication whatsoever that she is right and the plan is factually feasible. It would be far from the first documented occurence of a Pantheon member being in the dead wrong. I again call your attention to the case of Sloppy Joe and Leviathan wallowing in hateful self-pity, and SJ betraying his companions out of Sophie Rosseau making some cheap fast-talk about a cure, when the "cure" for destructive aberrations is just a Chrysalis away for Teragen novas, even according to strict published canon. Or need I point out how the Apostle's plans and viewpoint are ample proof that he got pretty much everything about Teras wrong ?

As it concerns the Colony, I think there is ample proof even in published canon that Trinity monstrous sub-aberrants are not true novas, but "cannon fodder" baselines rewarped into pseudo-novas with physical enhancements and quasi-powers. Only the direct offspring of the Colony are real 2nd Gen novas. But I feel insecure speculating on Trinity material too much, I never liked that part of the setting (and I find the canon outcome of the Aberrant War lacking any plausibility), so I largely left it alone and I lack any indepth familiarity. I tend to treat the Aberrant setting as a standalone if I can afford it although I recognize that some bits of the Adventure and Trinity setting may be necessary to make Aberrant complete (at least, the Time Travel power shows that the future of the Aberrant setting may be malleable).

[Alex Green]

Well, I'm definitely adamant on deeming BW, FP, ABA, and NF canon which trumps the actual feasibility of S-E's plan for various reasons.

Well thank you kindly. :)

there is no indication whatsoever that she is right and the plan is factually feasible. It would be far from the first documented occurence of a Pantheon member being in the dead wrong.

Yeah, it's a high risk move. The only thing in it's favor is all the other moves are probably worse. The Harvesters are on a path that will lead them into direct conflict with the humanoid non-monsters, and that includes Divis.

need I point out how the Apostle's plans and viewpoint are ample proof that he got pretty much everything about Teras wrong ?

The Apostle went through the big C twice, he must have gotten a few things right. ;) Of course that one thing might have been "suck up to Scripture".

As it concerns the Colony, I think there is ample proof even in published canon that Trinity monstrous sub-aberrants are not true novas, but "cannon fodder" baselines rewarped into pseudo-novas with physical enhancements and quasi-powers.

Injecting baselines with taint to give them 3rd rate powers/aberrations? His/her/its theme overlaps a lot with Sineater's. She's the only cannon nova who fits that bill (although I'd still rank her well down the list and part of the problem is this is a high Q power).

Personally if I'm playing a Terat I like to name him "The Colony" just because it puts Q8+ in his destiny...

[metaphysician]

Eh, I like Trinity, as a setting. Its connections with the earlier time periods are just unrefined. The Aeonverse could have used a 2e, with a better idea of how to connect stuff from the getgo.

( what can I say, if nothing else, Trinity got the best set of adventures, by far. . . )